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Yea I was thinking that due to the increased accuracy of playing efficiency, it might lead to smaller variance because there would be less playing mistakes. For betting correlation I keep a side count of aces dealt & add or subtract 2 to the running count based on aces dealt vs aces that should have been dealt. Apparently this increases the betting correlation of AOII to .99%. I believe the accuracy of playing efficiency & insurance correlation lowers the house edge off the top. I read that in a 6 deck game the Hi-Lo Ill 18 basic strategy variations decreases the house edge by 0.2% but in a double deck game playing efficiency is much more important. I wonder if using the AOII with over 50 basic strategy variations in a double deck S17 DAS game with an off the top house edge of 0.27% reduces the house edge so much as to create an off the top player advantage?? Would love to see a simulation of this.
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Using AOII, it looks like you still have a slight disadvantage (-0.014%) with flat betting and full indices with a Double Deck S17, DAS game with .8 decks cut off (Mirage, Monte Carlo) and playing heads up against the dealer. However this is without an Ace side count and without considering comps. With these considered, I'm sure it's positive EV.
Thank you BlackjackKing I thought it would be very close to neutral or even positive. I actually use an ace side count adjustment for betting, playing & insurance decisions. I ran a simulation on CVData using AOII full Indices (without an ASC) against a 2 Deck S17 DAS Re-split Aces allowed game (0.20% house edge) with 65% deck penetration & it actually showed a small profit when only flat-betting. I found it very interesting.
Your results are most likely different because you have a little bit better penetration and RSA. Either way you get would be profitable when all is considered. If you have a big bankroll, maybe you can try it out. The comps alone would be worth it at a generous casino.
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Yes that was my thinking exactly. Do you use CVData to run your sims?
yes
And yeah, qfit.com. No need for spreadsheets; it will answer all of your questions. Although, if you like doing spreadsheets and trust yourself, go sick.
1.) DD games in Vegas are for the most part, counter traps. Always keep that thought in the back of your mind. There are places that hawk their DD games and will back you off with a 1-4 spread, while you can play the 6 deck game at the next table spreading 1-24 or more with no problem.
2.) Spreading to 2 hands is a huge issue in Vegas. Draws much more heat that other locations and this is especially true of DD games, although applies to 6 deck as well. This was actually one of my biggest disappointments when I moved to Vegas. I was looking forward to spreading horizontally as well as vertically, which I wasn't able to do so much back on the east coast because of crowded condition. I quickly found out it is a problem.
3.) NY NY is one of the sweatier M-chain properties, at least the southern strip M-chain properties. They will back you off, open a report on you in OSN AND flyer you to the sister properties and it's not even that good of a game. If you are going to burn out a game and a chain of properties, pick a better game.
Again, DD games in Vegas for the most part are a trap or hawked very closely. There is a reason why those of us that live here or those that play here frequently play very limited DD. If you only roll into town 2-3 times a year, you can risk playing and getting backed off. Otherwise, be careful.
I too, realize this thread is a few months old, but want to add a couple thoughts.
1.) DD games in Vegas are for the most part, counter traps. Always keep that thought in the back of your mind. There are places that hawk their DD games and will back you off with a 1-4 spread, while you can play the 6 deck game at the next table spreading 1-24 or more with no problem.
2.) Spreading to 2 hands is a huge issue in Vegas. Draws much more heat that other locations and this is especially true of DD games, although applies to 6 deck as well. This was actually one of my biggest disappointments when I moved to Vegas. I was looking forward to spreading horizontally as well as vertically, which I wasn't able to do so much back on the east coast because of crowded condition. I quickly found out it is a problem.
3.) NY NY is one of the sweatier M-chain properties, at least the southern strip M-chain properties. They will back you off, open a report on you in OSN AND flyer you to the sister properties and it's not even that good of a game. If you are going to burn out a game and a chain of properties, pick a better game.
Again, DD games in Vegas for the most part are a trap or hawked very closely. There is a reason why those of us that live here or those that play here frequently play very limited DD. If you only roll into town 2-3 times a year, you can risk playing and getting backed off. Otherwise, be careful.
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This is definitely true in casinos where there are only a couple DD tables, but do you think this is also the case in casinos with a bunch of DD tables? For example M, Station casinos, Silverton etc.Aces&Eights: I originally had a trip planned for December but unfortunately I had to push the date back. I have now booked a trip for February & I will certainly do a full trip report when I return. (Pictures & all)